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[Debate] Proyecto de Ley. Implementación del Fondo de Desarrollo Imperial

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xbrayax871
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Felipe.Mj
Koczu
Farrukiii
Karl:Marx
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I-Fran-I

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En vista del gran respaldo que recibió el post de la comisión. La idea del FDI nace con el fin de apoyar los proyectos a futuro de la comisión que tanto respaldo recibió en el post anterior.

El Fondo de Desarrollo Imperial (FDI) será un fondo creado para apoyar los proyectos de la comisión de desarrollo como por ejemplo pueden ser los torneos de fútbol, JJOO etc. Así se podrán financiar los premios brindando al ganador/es un premio tanto económico como material (trofeos). Además se podrá fomentar más la organización expandiendo sus fronteras entre estados que aún no conocen la organización. Este fondo ayudaría a que la futura comisión pueda alcanzar con éxito sus objetivos así como también lograr la cooperación y participación de todos los estados miembros.

                                 Ideado y Redactado por Karl:Marx y I-Fran-I[

FONDO DE DESARROLLO IMPERIAL

DEFINICIÓN

Art.I:Es el fondo creado con el fin de fomentar la cooperación de los estados miembros, brindar el apoyo económico a los proyectos culturales, de desarrollo y deportivos para que estos lleguen a su objetivo con eficiencia.

FUNCIONES

Art.II: Será usado como apoyo económico para cubrir los gastos que requieran los presupuestos de los proyectos previamente aprobados por la asamblea general. Los estados miembros deberán de aportar un total de 2$ créditos mensuales y estos deberán de ser pagados al encargado en los primeros diez días del mes.
Si la comisión de desarrollo determinase que un evento a realizarse con este fondo posee una cuota de inscripción los miembros de HID con al menos tres cuotas canceladas podrán eximirse del pago de esta inscripción


ESTRUCTURA

Art.III: El encargado de su recaudación será un solo miembro de la junta directiva consensuado entre ellos y recae la responsabilidad de la junta directiva mantener la integridad de él

DISPOSICIONES VARIAS

Art.IV: El uso ilícito y no consensuado por la AG del fondo es causal de destitución de la junta directiva sin perjuicio de alguna sanción mayor que pudiese establecer la corte imperial de justicia

ARTÍCULOS TRANSITORIOS

Art.V: Desde el mes de Agosto hasta finalizar el año en curso los estados miembros deberán pagar 3$ créditos de manera mensual durante los primeros diez días al encargado de recaudación designado.

Art.VI: Es posible que ante alguna actividad que formule la comisión de desarrollo se cobre una cuota de inscripción diferenciada entre miembros que forman parte de HID e imperios y/o ejércitos externos a la organización  

Karl:Marx

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Está perfecto, qué guapos quienes lo crearon!

Farrukiii

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Sinceramente me opongo a esto... Como vas a cobrar un impuesto por pertenecer a HID?
Eso sin tener en cuenta que con el habbocambio se perderian muchos $$ a la hora de pasar estos ahorros de una JD a otra u a los orrganizadores.
Voto en contra ( en cualquier caso podria ser opcional ). Si se necesitan $$ para organizar, que se pida una cuota de inscripcion y se busquen patrocinios

I-Fran-I

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Farrukiii escribió:Sinceramente me opongo a esto... Como vas a cobrar un impuesto por pertenecer a HID?
Eso sin tener en cuenta que con el habbocambio se perderian muchos $$ a la hora de pasar estos ahorros de una JD a otra u a los orrganizadores.
Voto en contra ( en cualquier caso podria ser opcional ). Si se necesitan $$ para organizar, que se pida una cuota de inscripcion y se busquen patrocinios

Esto es un apoyo que todos aportaríamos para que los proyectos tengan apoyo económico, para costear todos los gastos que los juegos puedan llegar a tener. La idea es que podamos ver actividades con más frecuencia. Además la cuota es bajísima. Exceptuando el torneo de Sergi, anteriormente nadie se ofrecía a hacer algo más que yo. De donde sacarás los patrocinios si ni en la misma comunidad quieren aportar?. Los patrocinadores quieren ganancias a cambios y esto no es con un fin lucrativo.

Karl:Marx

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Farrukiii escribió:Sinceramente me opongo a esto... Como vas a cobrar un impuesto por pertenecer a HID?
Eso sin tener en cuenta que con el habbocambio se perderian muchos $$ a la hora de pasar estos ahorros de una JD a otra u a los orrganizadores.
Voto en contra ( en cualquier caso podria ser opcional ). Si se necesitan $$ para organizar, que se pida una cuota de inscripcion y se busquen patrocinios

No se perderían muchos $, cada 50$ se pierde 1$ xd. Esto es para los proyectos que requieran de recursos. No es cuota por pertenecer, es cuota para el desarrollo. Y como dice Fran, esto no es un acto lucrativo, no se busca lucrar con HID porque son fondos de administración comunitaria, y no habría gastos unilaterales, porque cualquier cosa que se necesite para el presupuesto debe ser aprobada por mayoría en asamblea.

Koczu

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Koczu

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Felipe.Mj

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Me parece un buen proyecto, servirá para varias actividades y hasta el pobre de magnus tiene 2$ para pagar, ademas le pago 50L a la semana asique que se queja.

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alex-skywaker

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Me gusta ya que con ese pequeño impuesto puedes organizar cosas para reactivar el rol. Farruki no seas miserable esos 2$ los ganas de recluta en 1 hora, sino tienes ponte a trabajar ._.

Lo único que me gustaría agregar es que el miembro de la JD lleve un registro en el foro de quién le da el depósito para así todos sepamos cuánto dinero va acumulado y evitar conflictos. No digo que reddya se vaya a robar el dinero, pero por las experiencias y evitar conflictos es mejor eso.

A favor y si se toma en cuenta mi modificación creo que podría ser aún mejor Very Happy

xbrayax871

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Porfavor, les doy todos mis aplausos (maximo 7) a los creadores de esto, ¿y por dios quien se queja por dar 2$ o 3$ mensual? son pocos $$ ni que ofrecieran 50$ mensual ok ya allí es mucho para una colaboración ese precio esta bien, pero lo que deberían modificar es que nosea a partir de agosto que se paguen 3$ sino, apartir de septiembre o algo, para ver como va de bien el proyecto. Me parece buena idea

Karl:Marx

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alex-skywaker escribió:Me gusta ya que con ese pequeño impuesto puedes organizar cosas para reactivar el rol. Farruki no seas miserable esos 2$ los ganas de recluta en 1 hora, sino tienes ponte a trabajar ._.

Lo único que me gustaría agregar es que el miembro de la JD lleve un registro en el foro de quién le da el depósito para así todos sepamos cuánto dinero va acumulado y evitar conflictos. No digo que reddya se vaya a robar el dinero, pero por las experiencias y evitar conflictos es mejor eso.

A favor y si se toma en cuenta mi modificación creo que podría ser aún mejor Very Happy

Alex, me parece buena idea, pero puede ser en los métodos que la directiva requiera para que se realice la recaudación, la idea es que la registren, por donde sea, pero la cosa es que tengan la info. Puede ser que antes del 10 de cada mes publiquen la lista de quienes pagaron.

Karl:Marx

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xbrayax871 escribió:Porfavor, les doy todos mis aplausos (maximo 7) a los creadores de esto, ¿y por dios quien se queja por dar 2$ o 3$ mensual? son pocos $$ ni que ofrecieran 50$ mensual ok ya allí es mucho para una colaboración ese precio esta bien, pero lo que deberían modificar es que nosea a partir de agosto que se paguen 3$ sino, apartir de septiembre o algo, para ver como va de bien el proyecto. Me parece buena idea

xbrayax871 gracias por los 7 aplausos xd, mira los 3$ es porque se piensa hacer algunos Juegos Olímpicos Imperiales en los próximos meses, entonces se requerirá una recaudación mayor en pocos meses, es por eso los 3$, y claro, cuotas de inscripción a ellos u otra actividad que fije la "Comisión de Desarrollo" (que ya se discutió, y falta que se vote), de forma diferenciada entre miembros de HID y externos, menor para los primeros, mayor para los segundos.

SoulBerry

SoulBerry

Mi idea es hacerlo en una hoja de cálculo visible para todas las personas y colocar un registro en dicha hoja, yo me encargaria de dicha gestión.

SoulBerry

SoulBerry

Esta muy bien la idea, pero seria conflictivo en mi punto de vista, si uno no paga que pasa? se le echa de la AG?

xbrayax871

xbrayax871

No SoulBerry no se le echa en la AG, sino que no participa en eso y lo de la hoja de calculo se encarga los encargados de eso.

SoulBerry

SoulBerry

La hoja de cálculo la haré yo en caso de que el proyecto sea aceptado y hablaré con la directiva para ver si puedo encargarme de este tema Smile

R.L.e.d.e.z.m.a

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Para que sea más transparente, aparte de la hoja de cálculo (que debe decir obviamente quien dió cuanto y cuanto va en total, cuanto ingresa y cuanto egresa en caso de un evento), agreguen un mediador entre ambas partes para el cambio o donacion o como se diga, y creen una sala tipo banco donde coloquen en esa sala los $$, de forma que sea SUPER VISIBLE para todos, así sabrán con exactitud que hay y que no.

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Karl:Marx

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R.L.e.d.e.z.m.a escribió:Para que sea más transparente, aparte de la hoja de cálculo (que debe decir obviamente quien dió cuanto y cuanto va en total, cuanto ingresa y cuanto egresa en caso de un evento), agreguen un mediador entre ambas partes para el cambio o donacion o como se diga, y creen una sala tipo banco donde coloquen en esa sala los $$, de forma que sea SUPER VISIBLE para todos, así sabrán con exactitud que hay y que no.

Buena idea lo del mediador, pero puede ser opcional. Y la sala del banco ahí creo que se perderían créditos en exceso, sólo puede ser en lingos que posteriormente seasean aprobados del presupuesto para entregarse, salvo que se necesite una cantidad inferior, creo que sería suficiente con el registro que se llevaría en un formulario, ahí se tendría la constancia exacta del dinero disponible.

Karl:Marx

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SoulBerry escribió:Esta muy bien la idea, pero seria conflictivo en mi punto de vista, si uno no paga que pasa? se le echa de la AG?

Para integrar a muchos más Estados de las actividades de HID, y en vista de que es una cantidad mínima, con Fran consideramos que es necesario que sea obligatorio, primero sería un pequeño filtro a Estados que ingresan únicamente con fines electorales, pues la idea es hacer que cada miembro de HID, participe de la organización y su vinculación con el mundo de Habbo, pues al fin y al cabo, somos parte del juego, y no sólo personas que responden un foro.

No obstante a lo anterior, todo está sujeto a debate.

alex-skywaker

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Los métodos son excelentes pero lo único que no me agrada es último que mencionaste karl, no debe ser obligatorio ya que puede que por ejemplo Ledezma no participe en las actividades pero en el foro si sea muy activo, aunque sí lo correcto es que una persona tenga al corriente sus cuotas para tener derecho al voto y así regular que no solo aparezcan con fines electorales, total son 2$ al mes que los consigues hasta de recluta y así demuestras también tu interés por mejorar HID.

Karl:Marx

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alex-skywaker escribió:Los métodos son excelentes pero lo único que no me agrada es último que mencionaste karl, no debe ser obligatorio ya que puede que por ejemplo Ledezma no participe en las actividades pero en el foro si sea muy activo, aunque sí lo correcto es que una persona tenga al corriente sus cuotas para tener derecho al voto y así regular que no solo aparezcan con fines electorales, total son 2$ al mes que los consigues hasta de recluta y así demuestras también tu interés por mejorar HID.

Toda la razón amor, puede ser sólo para imperios activos la obligatoriedad. O puede reducirse a 1$. Pero como dices 2$ cualquiera los consigue, es cierto.

MasterBeats

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|+| Me parece buena la idea, la apoyo pues 2$ se consiguen con bastante facilidad. Es una forma que con trabajo se pueden dar diferentes formas creativas para darle al rol un toque más divertido y salir un poco de la rutina laboral.

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alexminar9

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Estado Miembro HID
Estado Miembro HID

A favor.

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